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    Bobby Valentine bans beer in Red Sox clubhouse

    Bobby Valentine takes a load off — for a moment — at Red Sox camp. (Big League Stew)Saying it's what he's "always done" as a manager, new Boston Red Sox skipper Bobby Valentine told his players that alcohol would not be allowed in the team's clubhouse, or on the last flight of road trips, this season.

    The new rules come after a tumultuous 2011 season that ended in collapse on the field and embarrassment for pitchers Josh Beckett, Jon Lester and John Lackey for drinking beer in the clubhouse during games in which they weren't playing.

    Well, Terry Francona is gone and there's a new sheriff in town. Via the Associated Press:

    "It's just what I've always done, except for when I was in Texas, I guess," Valentine said when asked why he banned booze. "I'm comfortable with it that way."

    He's the man in charge of the clubhouse and should get to set up the rules. Ideally, the players would police themselves and act responsibly on their own, but some prominent Red Sox didn't do that last season. Now, everyone gets punished — and it is a form of punishment for responsible players.

    These days, many workplaces include opportunities to drink on the job site — some even during the workday, but certainly afterward. But the players' reaction to Valentine's rules, at least on the record, was supportive. David Ortiz, for example:

    "We're not here to drink. We're here to play baseball," the slugger said. "This ain't no bar. If you want to drink, drink at home."

    Funny and reasonable-sounding. But when 25 guys basically live with each other for six months (and that's just the regular season), being able to sit in the clubhouse and talk shop over a few brews is a nice way to relax for all of the reasons you might think: It helps players unwind after an intense ballgame, it promotes camaraderie, it breaks up the monotony. Old-school ballplayers, many of them, would tell you it's good for the team.

    Other major league teams ban alcohol similarly. The policies are set up by each individual club; they change from manager to manager and from season to season. And not having beer in the clubhouse won't necessarily preclude your team from winning the World Series.

    Josh Hancock died five years ago this April. (AP)

    In 2007, the St. Louis Cardinals banned alcohol after pitcher Josh Hancock died after crashing his car following a night of drinking that started in the Cards' clubhouse. Quite understandable, given the horror, trauma and likely feelings of guilt. Five years later, the ban remains.

    Though he hasn't managed in the majors for 10 years, Valentine — who more recently managed in Japan — seems to feel such a policy works for him. He doesn't want beer to be available and the Red Sox abused their privileges last season.

    And yet, it's not necessarily a solution, or even a good idea, for every clubhouse. If I'm a Red Sox player who didn't hit the booze during games, I don't like being made to feel untrustworthy. Will that make me play worse? Hopefully not. Probably not, by itself. And you don't have to like your manager. And you don't have to like all of your teammates.

    But it would be nice if you could trust each other.

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    85 comments

    • George Fletcher Won  •  2 months ago
      Wrong, David Brown. Very few job spots have a place to drink alcohol (either on the job or just after) on the actual work site. Of course, some bars locate themselves nearby, but that's different. The idea that it would be OK to drink on the job (especially for a pro athlete) is ludicrous.
    • Soxlover57  •  2 months ago
      18 other ballclubs ban alcohol in the clubhouse. So the big deal is?
    • TJ Stone  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  2 months ago
      The players have brought this discipline onto themselves. What does trust have to do with it? He is the manager, he sets the rules. Today's players are so spoiled it is sickening. They say "you don't understand the pressure I'm under." HUH? You make millions a year playing a game you nimrod. Drinking on the job? #$%$ Big League Stew must be Big League Brew!
    • Manuel  •  San Diego, California  •  2 months ago
      None of us can drink at work, and no matter what it still is a job. As an owner of a business thats putting a loaded gun in anyones hands. drink at home or go to a bar.
      • Winton H 2 months ago
        This is true. And when we moved to a new neighborhood in NY when I was a kid, every now and then we'd hear of some construction worker who got fired for drinking on the job - the unions wouldn't protect them for doing that.
      • Jacked Freak 2 months ago
        Or a club, Or a friends house, your car, After work, Bathroom break.
        You can pretty much drink in your sleep like me unless Im the only special one.
    • Dan  •  Tampa, Florida  •  2 months ago
      What a joke. These guys pound beers and groupies for 6 months out of the year. They'll just have to shower after the game a bit quicker to maintain the lifestyle.
      • localboy 2 months ago
        That means less goose-time with the guys...;)
      • FrankieV 2 months ago
        Some are responsible, or should be. Most are millionaires.
    • Robert  •  Edmonton, Canada  •  2 months ago
      Well I just got into work and it's time for my beer break,,,,one or 2 more and I should be pisssshhhed to the titzzzzth...........great comment below re sportswriters drinking on job.....far as I know almost all employers are concerned over legal issues (liability) if a worker were to have a couple of beer at work and then have an accident......it's why most employers provide a cab ride home after the christmas party or a hotel room to sleep off the christmas party....
    • Lookin For L.A. Woman  •  Chesapeake, Virginia  •  2 months ago
      Seems to me, the ONLY people that can drink while on the job are SPORTS WRITERS! You must have been tanked up while writing this! There are organizations that won't even let you drink at a company function while off the clock! TOO many incidents of people getting into bad situations and the company getting sued as being contributory and jointly liable.

      If the players want to drink, there is NOTHING that says they can't dress and go out for a drink anywhere they want to. I think it's a great move to ban it in the clubhouse and while traveling as a team. Why is it that NO ONE has mentioned the players that have had alcohol issues in the past and would be tempted by having it around? I don't know if the Rangers have such a policy, but it might make it easier for guys like Josh Hamilton is they don't see other people drinking! Too bad so many players act like spoiled children instead of professional athletes... are there ANY more HEROES out there anymore? No wonder so many parents are praying desperately for a guy like Tim Tebow to succeed - he's a great role model! Or would you rather have your kids model themselves after Manny Ramirez?
    • TIGER  •  2 months ago
      if your gonna suck anyway, why not get wasted?
    • T-bone  •  Langley, Canada  •  2 months ago
      Completely illogical...it's like banning the Maple Leafs from sucking...it just won't work.
    • Ross  •  2 months ago
      With all the the millions of dollars these people make, they can't sit through a 3 hour game without a drink. ridiculous
    • seymour  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  2 months ago
      Who else is allowed to drink on the job. Maybe they could include their airline pilot if they want it so bad. Gosh these players are so spoiled it makes me sick. TGO
    • OSEDP  •  2 months ago
      Is Mr. Valentine experiencing some sort of leg problems? Either the dark looks one each legs are tats or varicose veins. If they are the latter, they can be a pain to deal with both figuratively and literally.
      • T-bone 2 months ago
        Nothing a few beers won't fix!
    • Kevin  •  Albany, New York  •  2 months ago
      I don't like being made to feel untrustworthy
      No problem I don't think you are on the team
      • Dingo ate your baby! 2 months ago
        The only problem there is, unlike football, baseball teams can't just cut a player as their contracts are guaranteed. Eventually, baseball will have to go that route also, because at some point, teams will get tired of paying players 15-20 million/year who no longer produce. It's one thing the NFL got right.
    • julius  •  2 months ago
      major bummer i think everybody should be able to wasted at work
    • Carl M  •  San Antonio, Texas  •  2 months ago
      This is their place of buisness ... it's work... not a party. I'm a drinker ... I get why sometimes you may want to unwind with a beer ... but... during games.. really? Are you kidding me? No.. it's not cool and sets a bad precedent for the team whether you are activally pitching or playing that day or not.. Like Ortiz said..."it's not a bar". Drink somewhere else ... not during work.. can only lead to apathy and ill will in the clubhouse. It's a good call. What are you ... 6 ... grow up.
    • The Light Source  •  New York, New York  •  2 months ago
      His team, his rules. Burrrp!
    • Solator the Megatrack  •  2 months ago
      There is nothing good that can come from alcohol. The author of this article states that "alcohol helps players unwind." Yea, that's if you are an alcoholic. The truth is, beer commercials should be banned on major league baseball/football/nba games. Beer kills.
    • wotsituya  •  2 months ago
      If I drink beer on the job, I get fired. That should apply with these overpaid "athletes" as well.
    • 2LTRN  •  2 months ago
      Assuming these young men are "Professionals" just because they get paid does not mean they are mature. Most of these young men have been pampered and coddled in hopes they would obtain a good ROI. This happens for them at every level. They get used to being used, and being able to get away with stuff as long as they perform. The problem is that there is no way to measure the effects of drinking on their performance, or how much bat speed, or reaction time is effected. Banning alcohol from baseball would be equivilent to a PED. I know there are a lot of you who will argue, but ask yourself if you want your surgeon to be a party animal. I could tell you the best surgeons are very focused, and refrain from casual drinking.
    • PaulaD  •  Needham, Massachusetts  •  2 months ago
      For the millions they are paid they should be more than willing to do this. It's not like he's asking them to fast for a week.

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