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    Mattingly: MVP do-over ‘makes sense’ if Braun appeal fails

    Don Mattingly proposes an NV MVP do-over if Ryan Braun's appeal is denied later this month. (Getty)So, Don Mattingly proposes re-voting for NL MVP if Ryan Braun is denied his appeal of a positive drug test for a banned substance. Fair is fair, right? Performance enhancing drugs are bad, right? What Mattingly suggests (via ESPN) sounds noble and seems to appeal to fairness, as long as you ignore that he is manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers and thinks Matt Kemp should have won MVP.

    "To me Matt was the best player in the game last year," Mattingly said. "Ryan had a great year too.

    "But you guys (the media) always ask me about unwritten rules, about catchers and stuff like that. Then we have the unwritten rules about voting, because he wasn't on a winning team. You guys gotta get your unwritten rules together."

    Ah, good ol' unwritten rules. And that's the rub, isn't it? (In the world of performance-enhancing drugs, there's the Clear, the Cream and the Rub.)

    There's nothing actually written anywhere saying "you'll be stripped of the MVP" if you get caught using banned substances. If Braun's appeal is denied this month (as it probably will be), he will be suspended for the first 50 games of the upcoming Milwaukee Brewers season. That's his penalty. That's the punishment any player in his position can expect. Enacting some kind of ad-hoc retroactive justice would be bad news bears. There's no precedent for going back and re-voting for awards, and to go looking for one invites chaos.

    If we're going to slip into our time machine and strip Braun of the award, why stop there?

    Milwaukee Brewers slugger Ryan Braun tested positive for a banned substance during the 2010 postseason. (Getty …

    There's no way the Brewers get to the NLCS without Braun in the lineup, of course. What happened wasn't fair to the Arizona Diamondbacks, so we need to do the playoffs over. Strip the Brewers of the NL Central title, give it to the St. Louis Cardinals and make the Atlanta Braves the wild card. We can start the playoffs over just before spring training starts. (Do you think the Los Angeles Angels will let the Cardinals borrow Albert Pujols for '11 Playoffs 2.0?)

    If we're going to clean up the game, let's clean it like we mean it!

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    38 comments

    • Arty Lunch  •  4 months ago
      Why a do-over unless you want to do-over the entire Bud Selig era*

      Wake up America!!!!! Spending $100s on cheats and whiners as you vote down school bonds, let little league fields become unkept - all as these BILLIONAIRES with anti-trust exemption put on a fraud and get even richer.

      Hey, build them another stadium and watch the For Sale signs go up on foreclosed properties in your neighborhood. But tell your kids you got to see A-Rod, Braun, Clemens, McGwire ....
      • Cards11 4 months ago
        I think you left off Bonds,on purpose of course!
      • Robert Allen 4 months ago
        get over it
      • Arty Lunch 4 months ago
        Sure add in Bonds, Sosa, Gonzalez, Palmeiro, Petite, Sheffield, ... It's a all joke. Sadly the real morons like getting taken. Their legacy is that of a swindled chump.
    • Lee  •  San Mateo, California  •  4 months ago
      Wow, thanks for the insight.
    • RCD  •  4 months ago
      If they did that, would they strip the other druggies that won MVP's & CYA's? It may be a real mess.
      • GEORGE STANLEY 4 months ago
        a cleaned up mess. what's wrong with that?
      • Shane 4 months ago
        None of others got caught while they were winning the award that's why. Most of those others were caught years later, actually most were never caught they are simply believed to have used. Braun is different he was caught red handed, 2 months before he won the award. He should be stripped of the award, he wasn't even the best player anyway.
    • Bobby K  •  4 months ago
      no proof of them doing it right then though.... he cheated and was caught during his mvp year. Cushing should have gotten his defensive rookie of the year award away too
    • GERALE  •  Pinole, California  •  4 months ago
      We as parents teach our kids to be honest and lead an adult life as moral beings.
      Why are people accepting a liar and cheat named braun, over a class act in Kemp?
      • Ann 4 months ago
        We, as parents, should also wait to see what happens and listen to all the evidence before passing judgement.That is the way I parent my children.
      • GERALE 4 months ago
        Ann, also teach your kids not to be delusional!
    • GJ  •  Milwaukee, Wisconsin  •  4 months ago
      It would be nice if either you ar Mattingly even suspected what the fact were in this case beofre running a tthe mouth. The public facts are that the substnace in quesiton, while on MLB's prohibited list, is NOT a performance enhancing drug. Rather it was perscribed by a physician for a medical condiiton and was not cleared in advance with the Brewer medical staff. While Braun may be suspended, there is no longer ANY question that the drug in question was not performance enhancing and was not taken for that purpose. If you haven't seen that information yet then why open your pie hole on this subject.

      Braun is a class act and you need to have enough discerment to understand that this is NOT Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire or anything near that.
      • Cards11 4 months ago
        A lot of the ones caught cheating were taking prescride medications,it makes no difference where the band substance came from!
      • Shane 4 months ago
        Manny ramirez said the same thing when he got caught. The fact is that he cheated and got caught, he is not class act, a class act would have made sure his prescription didn't violate any rules.
      • GERALE 4 months ago
        BRAUN CHEATED
    • GEORGE STANLEY  •  Cicero, Illinois  •  4 months ago
      since baseball is the uniquely american-created sport..& reflects that unique sense of fairness that sets it apart from all others sports, there should be a provision for just such a situation. if it is unfair to use illegal drugs for gainful advantage, then it follows there should be not only punishment, but penalty in the form of denying awards to those same players who would violate the rules to gain those awards.
      to accuse Don Mattingly of having his own agenda is unfair.as the manager of the player who ended up losing more than any other, he is only doing his duty by speaking up for his player. if not the manager of the player who ended up getting jobbed, then who? Pud Selig, Mr. Hear-no-evil-see-no-evil-speak-no-evil? & the owners want to re-up this jackass who is a big brown stain on the back of the pants of american baseball? please.
      instigate rules: ANYONE who violates the drug policies should not be eligible for ANY awards, or induction into the HOF. AND take back the money they immorally earned made while cheating.see how fast that crapola disappears!
      run it like the SEC does for businesses who violate ethics procedures. fine 'em, jail 'em, impound the illegal profits.corruption has even pervaded MLB.everyone it's just another corporate monotlith complete with the same warts.. crooks cheaters & thieves everywhere. anyone who thinks MLB should have their own special set of rules.. enough!
      • GERALE 4 months ago
        I AGREE 100%!!!!!LET'S REALLY CLEAN UP THE GAME AND STOP REWARDING CHEATERS!BUD SELIG, WAKE THE #$%$ UP AND PENALIZE CHEATERS SEVERELY!
    • james  •  Tulsa, Oklahoma  •  4 months ago
      Nothing will happen to braun because he is a brewer. Whose daughter owns the Brewers?
    • B-Rod  •  Montgomery, Alabama  •  4 months ago
      Writer says..."There's no precedent for going back and re-voting for awards, and to go looking for one invites chaos."

      There is none because the need was never this great! Did people who roided up win MVP's before? YES! But that was the steroid-era where testing was not done and management turned a blind eye to it. Different era now, they should do the right thing, since that is what MLB wants its players to do!
    • Dan  •  4 months ago
      You take away braun's mvp, then you have to go back and take 4 away from bonds, 2 from arod, one from jose canseco, sosa, etc. The point is there cant be a double standard when it comes to a player using PEDs now compared to during the so called "steroid era". His punishment is that he cant play 50 games next season and won't get paid for it and guess what, not playing 50 games will eliminate his chances of winning again next year. Sounds like a pretty good punishment to me. The MLB has done a great job of eliminating PEDs and these suspensions are exactly why. Besides its not like Braun has always been a cheater, he's passed numerous PED tests before the test he failed prior to the playoffs, AFTER the season ended.
    • Willie W  •  Tampa, Florida  •  4 months ago
      Sounds like a Brewer fan talking to me. Yeah, Mattingly is the Dodgers manager but he's also right! I'm a Cardinal fan by the way. The Brewers also don't win the division without Fielder and they don't win it without that pitching staff (we've had better players fail to win the MVP before because there were too many other players on their team that made huge contributions). What bugs me about the unwritten rules is that they aren't applied consistently - writers use one of them one year to deny a player the award and the next year they use another to deny someone else. Braun had an awesome year. Kemp had a better year. Penalize Kemp because he had less talent in the lineup around him that resulted in his team not making the playoffs (we've had players from last place teams win the award before). Is the MVP an individual award or not? Braun had an awesome year but Braun cheated! I say it's high time we set a precedent and tell players we won't reward them in any way for cheating the game. Did Braun benefit financially for cheating to win the MVP. A lot of players have that incentive in their contracts. Take away that incentive to cheat!
    • CLINTON C  •  Elk Grove, California  •  4 months ago
      I think Kemp should of won it anyway. He was punished because he played for a CRAPPY DODGER team. Revote..Kemp by a landslide. No presidence that's true, but that may be changed shortly.
    • Doug  •  4 months ago
      he was tested before he won the award and I am sure the results were known and possibly held back untill the voting was complete. He should have not received the award. All other award winnere who won were found out much later.
    • Santiago B  •  4 months ago
      It's already widely acknowledged before Braun got busted that Matt Kemp should have won the MVP and only got it based on his team's success.

      Even Braun said it himself, without implying he didn't deserve it over Kemp.

      Now that he got busted it's even more clear. We all know Braun is guilty, what he should have done is just admit it and let everyone move on. Getting busted using PED isn't the death kneel it used to be. People just shake their heads and move on once you put up big numbers again.

      Kemp will have a monster season and Braun will be plauged with constant questions about this and have a very poor one. Justice.
    • GERALE  •  Pinole, California  •  4 months ago
      BRAUN IS A CHEAT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
      THERE WOULD BE NOTHING WRONG IN GIVING IT TO THE TRUE MVP, MATT KEMP!!!!!
    • Paul S  •  New York, New York  •  4 months ago
      Where is the rest of this article? If you make a statement such as "but there's no way it should happen," you should present a counter-argument as to why.
    • Eugene B  •  Scottsville, Virginia  •  4 months ago
      Personally I agree with Mattingly, if Braun's appeal is denied he should lose the MVP award. He broke the law, so he gets a 50 game suspension, so what. He got lots of money for getting the MVP, right? If he used performance enhancing drugs don't you think that contributed to his MVP season? And, Yes, maybe we should go back and pull the awards from previous winners, just like the Heisman committee did.
    • ........  •  4 months ago
      He is not the MVP, Kemp is. Most sane people know that, keep making excuses for that jerk Braun
    • GJ  •  Milwaukee, Wisconsin  •  4 months ago
      Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant guys. It is likely that Braun will serve the suspension. But he was not taking a PED. Talk about taking away his MVP is ridiculous and based on nothing other than you wanted Kemp to win it in the first place. If you can't distinguish between a PED and a drug used to treat a medical condition for a very short period of time, then you are hopeless. If he is supended so be it but this talk about him being a cheater, a roider etc is sheer nonsense---it does not jive with the facts. But don't let that get in the way of your conclusion.
    • Mike L  •  4 months ago
      There is no precedence for it, but the specter of PEDs in baseball has to be shattered and a zero tolerance policy has to be the standard. And Mattingly's right. A Rod won MVPs with Texas while they were the cellar dwellars of the AL West, why shouldn't Kemp get what he deserves? The MLB and the HOF are going to have to look to reward players for doing things the right way, not just gaudy numbers.

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