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    Does Billy Beane’s contract extension signal an optimistic dawn for Oakland fans?

    Billy Beane's deal may only go through 2019, but his tie to Brad Pitt will last forever. (Getty)Admittedly it's a little weird to use a word like "dawn" when you're talking about a general manager that has held his position since 1998 and ranks among the most tenured front-office men in baseball.

    But with Billy Beane reportedly finalizing an extension that would keep him running the Oakland Athletics through 2019, the media and fan buzz around the Bay Area has an optimistic bent. The thinking is that there's no way that Beane would sign on for that long if owner Lew Wolff wasn't close to securing his prized stadium deal over in San Jose.

    Writes Susan Slusser in the SF Chronicle:

    Such [a lengthy extension points] to further optimism in the A's upper ranks about the team's chances of getting approval for a new stadium in San Jose. Considering how publicly frustrated Beane has been about the limitations of the Coliseum, both in terms of attracting free agents and in terms of income generated, I cannot imagine him staying with the club that long without a good idea that a new stadium is on the horizon.

    Indeed, with a new stadium in place, the thinking is that Wolff will end his tantrum and ease up on the financial death grip that led Beane to trade players like Trevor Cahill, Gio Gonzalez and Andrew Bailey this offseason. A new home might not catapult the A's into large-market status but it should definitely stop the team from walking around with a tin cup while doing a lesser-publicized version of the retro Florida Marlins act.

    Of course, with Beane's recent track record one wonders how fired up A's fans can really be about him sticking around for this entire decade. After all, the sheen of "Moneyball" exists only in the minds of Oscar voters and it's going to take a lot to make people forget about the misstep of trading Carlos Gonzalez for a half-season of Matt Holliday. Also, as SB Nation's Rob Neyer notes, Beane's 4 percent ownership stake means that he could be sticking around for more than just the removal of a competitive handicap.

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    Neyer also asks if this deal means that Beane will be an Athletic for life and I can't really see it meaning anything else. For better or worse, the on-field successes of Moneyball in the early 2000s — and Beane's ensuing rejection of the Red Sox — ensured a lengthy relationship between the two sides. Beane isn't going anywhere, nor should he be. It's impossible to separate the franchise from the architect at this point.

    At the same time, I can't look at this deal and automatically assume that Billy Beane plus a bigger budget equals guaranteed success. The real victory of such an extension is that it signifies the franchise can stop spinning its wheels and finally get into a position where it can sink or swim. Beane and the A's could fail just as easily in a new home in San Jose, but at least it won't be the product of self-sabotage. It's a sad indictment of the past few years in Oakland, but that will count as progress.

    It will count as a reason for hope.

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    44 comments

    • Ets  •  Palmerah, Indonesia  •  1 month 15 days ago
      respect..
    • PENS FAN  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 months ago
      Here comes another 7 years of trading for prospects then getting rid of them.
      • Steve 3 months ago
        You forgot the middle part of letting the prospects develop at the big league level at the expense of actually winning. After they have lost tons of games and are just starting to win, that's when you want to trade them.
      • B 3 months ago
        For a minute there, I thought you were talking about my Padres. Totally agree Pens Fan.
    • O'Smoke  •  3 months ago
      This guy must be crazy. No one wants to move to Oakland and yet this guy won't leave.
      • The Rock 3 months ago
        He has ownership that makes him a bit more tied to the franchise.
    • Jonathan Law  •  New York, New York  •  3 months ago
      I can't wait for the A's to move out of Oakland. The current stadium and location is atrocious. Nobody wants to go to Oakland...and once they move perhaps we will once again be able to compete and keep players instead of gutting every year
    • Jeff F  •  3 months ago
      The Oakland A's have become this eras Kansas City A's. When I was a kid, Kansas City was almost a farm team for the Yankees, so many of their players, good players came from there. Seems the same way now. Beane certainly has an eye for talent and he does develop it. The problem is that as soon as these kids can, they take off for the real money. Oakland has lost the ability to compete in today's game. Seems a shame given their storied past.
    • Mark F  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 months ago
      Optimism for San Jose fans maybe, but not OAKLAND fans! Thanks a lot for the misleading headline.
      • James 3 months ago
        I dunno... are they changing the name if they move? I would think not. If the Angels can call themselves Los Angeles, the A's can call themselves Oakland.
      • Mark F 3 months ago
        San Jose is a lot further away than Anaheim. Check Google maps! Plus the Angels didn't move, they just added to their name. For the typical A's fan who lives in Oakland, trust me, it's gonna suck! (Btw, I don't know why my yahoo id says I live in TX--I don't.)
      • Mark 3 months ago
        Well Mark, mine says SF but really I'm in Santa Cruz. Driving to San Jose instead of Oakland is going to be great for me. The A's (and Giants) have fans all over the bay area, and where each team plays isn't going to change that, we'll go wherever they play, so boo-hoo to those who live in Oakland. Really, this is all pretty ridiculous when you consider that NO Giants fan I know that lives here will become an A's fan simply because they're moving closer to us and will have a nicer, newer park. Fans are fans, and if they change teams they root for, then they're not real fans of a team, and geography doesn't matter. That's why there are so many #$%$ Yankees fans at the games.
    • California Kid  •  3 months ago
      I wish Holiday would have tried when he was in Oakland
    • AzzKickor  •  Norfolk, Virginia  •  3 months ago
      I am neither excited nor disappointed if they move. The reason being, is there a fan base in San Jose that is larger than the current Oakland fan base? I know the A's struggle with payroll because of lack of support. IE...if you dont make money you cant spend it. For years they have been getting by squeeking by with patches for gaping holes in offense and defense. When can we get a few marquee guys to get to and win a playoff series. I have and always will be an A's fan!!! Heres to pushing forward and having the young guys step up. Go A's!!
      • Ec 3 months ago
        the coliseum is a nasty park on many levels. the old tiger stadium in detroit was nicer. having a nice, new downtown stadium in san jose will likely allow for the more casual fan to venture in for a game. the A's have to do something if they want to stay alive. san jose has double the population of oakland and sits at the bottom of the bay, meaning both east bay and peninsula folk can get to it pretty easily.
    • JpNYC23  •  3 months ago
      I think Billy Beane has the skills to be one of the best GM's in the game, but the fact remains that under his leadership, Oakland has not won a thing. Please stop the moneyball nonsense. Oakland was competitive all of those years (a decade ago) due to good, young pitching. Trades don't win championships - pitching does!
    • Mark H  •  3 months ago
      Getting sold Billy Beane's snake oil is a reason for optimisim???
      • LH 3 months ago
        Before Beane's arrival baseball in Oakland had been a complete JOKE for many years.He actually turned it into something worthwhile so try and show a little respect for the man.
    • Sam Quantum Leap  •  3 months ago
      Aww, I wanted Billy Bean back in Toledo to manage the Mud Hens that he once played for!
    • clarence  •  Pleasanton, California  •  3 months ago
      The only thing that will give Oakland A's fans any REAL hope is the retirement and withdrawal from management of Lewser Wolff.
    • My Opinion  •  San Diego, California  •  3 months ago
      Be careful. San Diego built a new stadium and they still are not doing much. They even have been passed over several times to host the All Star game. Answer that one Bud!
    • Jamal  •  3 months ago
      Still want to see the movie. Sounds interesting. Lynn Womack (free lance sports writer) stated it is unusual for an outsider from the Bigs to attain such power. Using statistics to predict for recruiting is risky, but he proved to the world he could do it. I guess for future recruits, just hire the NSA to number crunch for them and leave the scouts out. Laugh, you might, but it is headed that way. Read Womack's book about the future changes to the sport.
    • KJKT  •  3 months ago
      Good grief! I am an A's fan and Beane ball DOES NOT WORK!! Every time they get an all star player (s) he lets them go. Why make a movie about this j*** a**? He has not done S*** for Oakland!
    • mirvox  •  3 months ago
      The whole thing with Bud Selig and Lew Wolff and what may or may not have happened late one night in the secretly sworn confines of brotherly fraternization. I'm just sayin'.....
    • G MAN  •  3 months ago
      thank you for carlosgonzalez happy rocksfan
    • Peanut Noir  •  3 months ago
      While I am a Diamondbacks fan, I think this is great for baseball, and I hope the A's are able to secure the San Jose deal.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Plano, Texas  •  3 months ago
      Moneyball = No World Series appearances

      Someday, Beane will realize human beings play baseball, not numbers.

      Go Rangers!!!
    • Michael G  •  Ann Arbor, Michigan  •  3 months ago
      As long as they keep the sweet yellow retros, I don't care where they put 'em.

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