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    Tip Drill: Learn to love the Post-Hate Sleeper

    Ooh La La (US Presswire)

    There's plenty of homework to be done as we get ready for the 2012 Fantasy Baseball Season. We study the position battles and the closer carousel, the lineup shuffling and the injury beat. Study, study, study.

    Don't forget one other critical assignment: study your competing owners. Getting a sense of how they feel about the 2012 player pool is critical. It's all about leveraging the marketplace, gamer. (If you knew exactly how your opponents were planning to draft, player evaluation would hardly matter. You'd clean up like Mike McDermott at the Chesterfield.)

    With that theme in mind, let's open our minds and start to consider players that are routinely panned elsewhere. Sometimes I'll find myself digging on a player's value mostly because the market isn't interested.

    Say hello to the Post-Hate Sleeper.

    Jeff Francoeur, come on down — you're our prime example. Everyone remembers your snappy season in Kansas City last year: .285 average, 77 runs, 20 homers, 87 RBIs, 22 steals. You were the No. 16 outfielder on Yahoo's player board by the end of the year, ahead of Andrew McCutchen, B.J. Upton and Jay Bruce. You've got a Wiggy on the shelf.

    And today, no one in the roto industry wants to touch you. Well, just about no one.

    In the Fantasy Baseball Professional Guide magazine, three different writers submitted Francoeur as a "pan" — a player to avoid. Phil Hertz summed it up this way: "The stars aligned for him in 2011. The stars don't often align." Lawr Michaels concluded that Francoeur is "not worth the anguish." Rob Blackstein warned "don't pay for another 20-20-.285 season."

    In the Fantasy Baseball Index, our buddy Jeff Erickson tabbed Francoeur as the biggest fluke in the American League last year.

    And then you have the early Industry League mock draft returns. Frenchy's ADP in the expert mockery is 226.8 — a whopping 38 slots lower than his public league ADP.

    Now I understand that you never want to pay for a career year, and I get that Francoeur has let people down in the past. I know his hacking approach at the plate turns a lot of people off. I see the downside to him, and I fully agree that you don't want to pay for his 2011 stats at 2012's draft table. No one wants to be the sucker here.

    Grady Seasons (US Presswire)But good grief, if they'll let you grab him with pick 226 in a mixer, why the heck not? How much risk is there at that juncture? Is he really 3-4 rounds worse than Carlos Lee, as the industry mockers say? Would you take Grady Sizemore over Francoeur, like the industry mockers are? I don't want to hear that "don't pay for a career year" mumbo-jumbo now; that price is a giveaway, a free spin.

    I'm figuring Francoeur can post something close to a neutral average for most mixed leaguers, and his counting stats should be credible given that the Royals are set on him as the regular right-fielder. As Woody Allen once noted, 90 percent of life is just showing up. Don't overlook how important the playing time angle is for Francoeur, working every day and hitting in the middle of a solid lineup (quietly, the Royals were tenth in the majors in runs scored last year). Francoeur may not reach the admittedly-optimistic projection I offered for him in December (.279-80-21-81-16, see Lindy's), but even if he grabs about 80-90 percent of that, you'll make an easy profit at the current price tag.

    Obviously there's an ebb and flow to the marketplace, and today's ADP data could be meaningless when draft season heats up in March. I know a lot of sharp owners who don't care for mock data in any form; some roto heads will wait until the "real" ADP data comes out. You're taking all of this with a grain of salt.

    Just be sure to grasp the two takeaways on the way out. One, know your market (and your other owners). And two, don't be afraid to love when everyone else is hating (or to hate when everyone else is loving). It's all relative.

    Other potential Post-Hate Sleepers (from where I sit): Alex Rios, A.J. Burnett, Adam Dunn, Jason Bay, Delmon Young. But the hate list might be completely different in your neck of the woods. Keep watching the detectives.

    (Still uninterested in Francoeur? Perhaps this talent scout will sway you. She's obviously done her homework.)

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    14 comments

    • Gabriel Rockman  •  2 months ago
      Angel Pagan and Melky Cabrera for the Giants - good chance they score 80+ in front of Posey and Sandoval. I'm liking the price tag on both of them.
    • dianagram  •  Brooklyn, New York  •  2 months ago
      Francoeur Comes Alive? I for one am a little skeptical of a repeat performance in 2012, based on his BABIP:
      Year BAbip
      2005 .337
      2006 .284
      2007 .337
      2008 .274
      2009 .305
      2010 .270
      2011 .323
      • pianow 2 months ago
        I think everyone sees regression here, and that's fine. The point is that he can still regress and yet be a fantasy profit guy. Even something like .262-73-16-77-12 would be a gain based on his attainable ADP in most pools.
      • dianagram 2 months ago
        Understood Scott .... not trying to give you a hard time.
      • pianow 2 months ago
        It's all good. I always welcome your feedback, VORG Girl.
    • benny s  •  Piscataway, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
      I'm a big fan of Dunn this year.. 40 homer seasons every single year for a prolonged period of time don't just disappear.. where he's being drafted even if he bombs there is no risk attached
      • Bubba 3 months ago
        yuppers...taking him for one dollar in auction leagues....not that hard to pull the trigger on that one!
      • Fitzy 2 months ago
        If you want him, you better be sure to get guys like Reyes and M. Young on your team, too. Regardless of your opinion on his power stroke, he will be an absolute CANCER to your team batting average.

        Let's try to remember that he had just as long of a history NOT ever reaching .270 as he did hitting 38 HRs.
      • Empty the Bench 2 months ago
        Let's also remember that good leagues use OBP and SLG instead of AVG.
    • soccoach12  •  Indianapolis, Indiana  •  2 months ago
      Bay and Burnett are two that I am looking into during those latter rounds. Interesting bit on the mock ADP's vs real ADP's. I am seeing Trumbo go super low or not at all as well.
      • Terry 2 months ago
        Trumbo is so low because he may get very little playing time with Pujols playing first and a log jam at DH.
      • The Dude 2 months ago
        They say that Trumbo might only get 100 AB's. With Pujols, Morales, Abreu, Hunter, Trout, Wells, and Boujos how are you supposed to get PT.
      • cdawg 2 months ago
        trumbo's moving to 3b in spring training...see how it works out
    • Trigga Play  •  2 months ago
      AJ Burnett is definitely on my list. Sort of the reverse NY effect. Normally Yankees are more expensive, but sometimes a bad season or two can get magnified by the microscope as well. He has a good shot at being an average pitcher.
      • Adam 2 months ago
        True, but his loss of velocity certaintly doesn't help his cause, nor does his going to the Pirates...normally, I don't put a lot of weight on the team a pitcher plays for, but AJ certainly won't get much love in Pittsburgh. I'll stay away from him much as I'll stay away from pitchers on my beloved Orioles!
    • TedBell  •  San Francisco, California  •  2 months ago
      Wow, Y! has done a little work around the house. I almost didn't recognize the Roto Arcade. Then I saw Fitzy's high brow Gary Carter comment; that's when I knew I was in the right place.
      • Fitzy 2 months ago
        That comment wuz higher-browed than Spock and The Rock (The Sprock?) rolled into uno.

        Welcome home, tango bravo.
    • JimTheThird  •  3 months ago
      Gotta love tip drill. Easily my favourite column! Thanks, Pianoman!
    • Danny  •  Buzzards Bay, Massachusetts  •  2 months ago
      75 runs 20 hrs 78 rbi .267 14 steals..at his high this year
    • Taryn D  •  St Louis, Missouri  •  2 months ago
      like young and burnett, although every time an article like this comes out, the adp of the mentioned players always goes down...
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Washington, District of Columbia  •  2 months ago
      Francouer is the only guy getting talked about here?
    • Papashongo  •  Toronto, Canada  •  2 months ago
      how bout Jason werth... theres value there
    • Mikeydelz  •  New York, New York  •  2 months ago
      Gaby Sanchez.... Sleeper on Miami
    • Fitzy  •  2 months ago
      Is this actually a fresh article, or just a 2011 leftover with Francoeur's name copy-and-pasted in for Jose Guillen's?
    • Fitzy  •  2 months ago
      Gary Carter didn't read this article.

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