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    Tigers sign Prince Fielder, petition for second utility slot

    Is Redcoat Tavern that way? (US Presswire)

    As you probably have heard by now, Prince Fielder and the Tigers reached an agreement in principle Tuesday. As first reported by Yahoo's Tim Brown, it's a nine-year, $214 million deal.

    Lots of things to discuss about this deal, both in the real-life baseball world and in our numbers racket. Load up the bullets:

    • Fielder can mash, no one will dispute that. The Tigers could regret this deal later in the decade, but Fielder's production should be safe for a while. He doesn't turn 28 until May. Opposing pitchers will be shaking on the mound, dealing with the one-two punch of Miguel Cabrera and Fielder.

    But where is everyone going to play? Cabrera is only 13 months older than Fielder and he probably doesn't want to slide into a DH role yet. Do the Tigers dare use Cabrera at a more challenging defensive position? He was an outfielder and third basemen in the Florida days. (Cabrera only needs 10 appearances or five starts at a new position to pick up the eligibility in the standard Yahoo! game. Given the state of third base in fantasy baseball today, I'd like to see him at the hot corner, at least temporarily.)

    Can Fielder or Cabrera handle the challenge of staying focused in a DH role? Cabrera has struggled with that assignment for his career, albeit it comes in a tiny sample of 100 at-bats: .230/.306/.370. And is there an ego hit that comes with being asked to be a batter only before you reach your 30th birthday? Jim Leyland has some intriguing challenges on his hands for 2012.

    • If Cabrera and Fielder are both on the field at the same time, I weep for the Detroit pitchers. You specifically worry about Rick Porcello and Doug Fister; they have ground-ball heavy tendencies and need plays made behind them. It's not like the Tigers have Joe Morgan and Ozzie Smith up the middle, either; Jhonny Peralta is the shortstop, with Ryan Raburn and Ramon Santiago two of the second-base options. Dave Dombrowski might have more roster moves to come before spring training opens.

    • The Tigers never make the Fielder move had Victor Martinez not gotten hurt. Martinez has a torn left ACL and could miss the entire 2012 season. He still has three years remaining on the four-year, $50 million deal he signed 14 months ago. What do the Tigers do in 2013 and 2014 with this logjam of 1B/DH types? Petition for a second utility spot? I suppose that's a problem for another day.

    They call him Paws (US Presswire)• Fielder steps into a new league and a new park, of course. Comerica Park has been a neutral field for left-handed batting average over the last three years (hat tip, Bill James Handbook), but it's collapsed left-handed homers by 11 percent over that span. Miller Park was more Fielder-friendly; while it taxed lefty averages by three percent over the last three seasons, homers spiked by 16 percent (full disclosure: both of those stats were in the red for 2011-only).

    Given Fielder's age and strength, I don't think the park swap will wreck his roto value. Lineups cycle through more freely in the AL, and there will be good hitters around him in this offense. All in all, he landed in a good spot.

    • Scott Boras is amazing. This man could sell snow to the eskimos. With a limited number of teams in play, how does he get this deal for Fielder?

    • If you're in an NL-only pool, your first base options keep thinning out. Adrian Gonzalez left the Senior Circuit last year and Albert Pujols and Fielder jetted out this year. Ryan Howard is down for a chunk of 2012, too.

    • Bottom line, I like Cabrera a little more today than I did yesterday, albeit he was already a Top 4 guy on anyone's list. Third-base eligibility might be enough to push him to the No. 1 slot in some mixers, if he wasn't in the discussion already. Fielder could be a Detroit albatross down the line, but it's going to be a long honeymoon first. I'll sign off on him as a first-rounder in 2012. But I don't think I can keep Fister and Porcello on my sleeper list, not until Dombrowski tells me how he's going to take a sad defensive song and make it better. (One sleeper I do like: whomever bats No. 2 in this lineup, in front of Cabrera and Fielder. Get healthy soon, Brennan Boesch.)

    Now it's your turn to break it all down. What's the Tigers team song for 2012: Detroit Rock City (look at those mashers in the middle of the lineup) or Panic in Detroit (woe is the infield defense)?

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    36 comments

    • Muck  •  3 months ago
      I wonder if the Dodgers would be willing to move Dee Gordon? He's the perfect fit for the Tigers as a speedy shortstop. Of course, it would cost the Tigers, but I'd be comfortable letting Jacob Turner go to the Dodgers.....Baseball America still has Turner rated the better long term prospect, so I'm sure the Dodgers would be enticed by putting him in the rotation with Kershaw. I think you could put Gordon in the leadoff spot vs RHP and Austin Jackson in the leadoff role vs LHP, and put the odd man in the 9 hole. That move would allow the Tigers to move Peralta back to 3B for this season and platoon Miggy & Prince at 1b/DH. Miggy could continue to work on his conditioning to eventually go back to full time 3b next season when VMart comes back. Peralta's contract would be up, and you'd let him walk. Looking even further up the road....VMart would only have two seasons left on his deal. By that time, you can go back to the Prince/Miggy platoon...Nick Castellanos would be ready to be the everyday 3b, and you thank VMart for giving his final good years as he goes off in the sunset. The biggest key to Gordon is he would give good range in the infield & speed on the bases...which would make us all feel a little better about some of the Tiger's biggest flaws. PIPE DREAM!!!!
      • Veazer 3 months ago
        We don't NEED a freaking second baseman. Can all that crap about needing speed at the top of the order. All we need are freaking BASE RUNNERS. This means Jackson needs to cut his freaking strikouts in half. It doesn't talk a lot of speed to walk home on a Boesch / Cabrera / Fielder homerun!
      • Muck 3 months ago
        Veazer....Gordon is a shortstop. Regardless, we need defensive range in the middle infield. Whether you think we need speed at the top of the lineup or not, it makes a difference. Ask Texas if they think Kinsler and Andrus make a difference to pitchers trying to hold them on while worrying about Hamilton, Young, Cruz, & company. Not to mention, Gordon, in limited playing time has a .333 OBP against righties. Playing the splits between Jackson and him would, without improvement from either, get us a baserunner at least a third of the time they stepped in the box. How soon we forget the ALCS.
      • Nathan 3 months ago
        I agree with the statement however i dont see the dodgers wanted to let go of another bat. their staff is better then their batting order so it would probably take more then just turner, or maybe not even turner although im sure the dodgers wouldnt mind taking on a high end pitching prospect.
    • Justa' Seed  •  3 months ago
      I can see Fielder and Cabrera are going to make each other better already..Slugfest contest..and don't forget Delmon, Boesch, Peralta,Avila...this is gonna be a sight to behold..
      • Guy 3 months ago
        For the Tigers to do well, those guys you mentioned have to continue to play well like they did last year. To be honest they all had career highs except Delmon, Boesch (due to injury). They are too shakey to say its going to be a huge slugfest.
    • Scott  •  New York, New York  •  3 months ago
      (One sleeper I do like: whomever bats No. 2 in this lineup, in front of Cabrera and Fielder. Get healthy soon, Brennan Boesch.)

      same thing with number 5... delmon young. prince miggy get on at over a 400 clip. He may lead baseball in rbi opps.
      • rob 3 months ago
        boesch is 100% ready to go.heard a interview with him yesterday.
      • Scooter Mcgavin 3 months ago
        dont forget about peralta who smashed lat year. Followed by avila who put up some of the best numbers for a catcher in the majors
    • Justa' Seed  •  3 months ago
      I think Leyland has just put his feet up on the desk lit a Marlboro and is thinking to himself what shall I do here..?
    • Stacy Norris  •  3 months ago
      Everyone seems to forget that trades can happen at any time. Who knows who will be traded away and who get added. This will be an interesting year for the Tigers. They will have a much clearer picture of what to do for the '13 season with Martinez coming back.
      • Guy 3 months ago
        I TOTALLY AGREE! I don't see the Tigers winning it all this year. I do see a playoff picture and definitely having a chance. Next year when V. Mart. comes back and is put into the 5th spot in the lineup! LOOK OUT! Miggy needs to go play the outfield. Leave Inge at 3rd. He is quicker and has more agility.
      • J-Dove 3 months ago
        but miggy is fat and immobile haha
    • Will  •  Cicero, Illinois  •  3 months ago
      Matt Kemp might be number 1 in a full player universe seeing as he stole 40 bases, hit 39 bombs, batted .324, scored 115 runs, and knocked in 126 runs. ON THE DODGERS. Easy #1 pick getting a major 5 tool offensive player.
      • Muck 3 months ago
        Fair argument, but I would only disagree because of position eligibility. Getting a 3b eligible player is a little more important because quality fantasy OF's are a dime a dozen.
    • BGoode  •  3 months ago
      NL pitchers have to be loving this offseason.
    • j_n_16  •  Halifax, Canada  •  3 months ago
      So is Votto the #1 pick in NL-only leagues now?
    • Fitzy  •  3 months ago
      Good move by Detroit. Stockpile offensive talent first -- worry about where they're going to play later. Hell, you don't even have a pressing positional problem until 2013. There's no doubt in my mind that you just go ahead and let V-Mart completely recuperate this season and figure out the logistics of how he fits in next offseason (if his recovery time is longer than expected, maybe you even try to trade him?).

      Cabrera to third is probably an experiment worth trying at some point just to see how things go (his replacement value for Inge would be off the charts). I actually don't mind the Tigers OF (when you have Fielder/Miggy, it doesn't have to be *outstanding*, just merely above-average, which I think it is), but it looks like they're pursuing Johnny Damon. I guess they want a proven leadoff hitter, which I suppose makes sense (I would not recommend a deal any longer than one year, however).

      Nine years seems a little steep for Fielder for my tastes, but they probably did what they felt like they had to do to lock him up. I get the feeling that about halfway through his contract he's probably going to be resembling a DH, anyway, so at that point you can just move Cabrera back to 1B (perhaps they'll have developed a nice young 3B prospect by then). Martinez's contract will have been up by then, anyway (if they decide to hang with him for the entirety of it, that is).

      This all seems pretty smart to me -- with a little luck, this is going to work out like clockwork. I don't really see how this qualifies as a prototypical "logjam" situation at all (here's one that I think actually does: the current Toronto outfield).
    • Eric  •  Nashua, New Hampshire  •  3 months ago
      It will be interesting to see how many unearned runs the Tigers give up this year. Fielder is not a terrible 1B, but considering that entire infield is below average I can see this team losing some games due to errors or base hits getting through due to lack of range. They are still the best team in the AL Central by far.
    • Orv E  •  Lenexa, Kansas  •  3 months ago
      I will have to stay away from Prince in FB this year, takes time to readjust to your new surroundings......Good luck to all
    • BossMan  •  3 months ago
      There is no such thing as "to much" of anything in baseball... having Migg/Prince/Vic all healthy is a "problem" every team would love to have!! I wish Sparky was around to see this!!!
    • dave22  •  New York, New York  •  3 months ago
      Despite his size, Fielder's a pretty good defensive 1st baseman. Although not fast, he's athletic, quick and good at the position. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get the majority of starts there (I don't think you want to sit the big man at this stage of his career) and is not more of an asset than a liability in the field.
    • JS  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 months ago
      The Tigers will love the first half of this deal. They have 4 years to figure out what to do with Fielder then. That's a high class problem to have. Tigers win AL Central again this year - heaven help the league when Victor returns. Dombrowski did well here.
    • Graeme  •  Halifax, Canada  •  3 months ago
      Fielder and Cabrera will end up spliting time at DH.
    • Bob  •  Saginaw, Michigan  •  3 months ago
      With technonlogy the way it is, players can hang around a lot longer than they used to. So I'm not worried about the length of Fielder's contract. Why does anyone worry about the Tigers spending habits? Stop. Enjoy the season. Hope it all works out and leave these problem issues where they belong...with the Tigers management!
    • extavernmouse  •  Portland, Oregon  •  3 months ago
      Anyone saying the Tigers will eventually regret this are overlooking the ring or two or three Detroit will have won by then.
    • earl  •  New York, New York  •  3 months ago
      I could probably see miggy cabs at number one, especially if he gets that 3b eligibility. definitely a top 10 as is.

      Fielder though, I'm not super big on, and definitely think he'll be generating more buzz than he's worth. Not to say he isn't good (he is), but he just came off something like a career year, the gap between highs and lows is too much. I'm waiting until the middle of round two to take him, which is where I woulda taken him if he were still a brewer.
    • dagoldeneagle  •  3 months ago
      Defense is overrated. When the Cards signed Berkman last year to play outfield after he struggled through the second half of 2010 as a DH for the Yankees, all the sportswriter laughed. Berkman was a big part of the reason the Cardinals won it all and even made the playoff in the first place. In 2010, Brian Sabean acquired to DHs to play outfield (Pat Burrell, Jose Guillen) and the added offensive punch pushed the Giants to the playoff and ultimately won it all. The Tigers clearly now have one of the best lineups in baseball. I don't care how bad their defense is. The Mets went to the World Series with Mike Piazza as their everyday catcher. Jim Leyland is an old school manager like Tony La Russa and he knows defensive metric is useless. The best defense is dominant pitching and the Tigers have Verlander. I don't know why the Tigers signed Gerald Laird when V-Mart (before he got hurt) and Brandon Inge could both play backup catcher to Alex Avila. The outfield is pretty weak (Austin Jackson, Delmon Young, and Brennen Boesch don't scare anyone). If I were the Tigers, I would move Cabrera to 3rd, plug Fielder at first, make Raburn the everyday second baseman, get rid of Laird, make Inge the super utility guy and backup catcher, and sign another veteran bats to DH and make some starts in the outfield (Hideki Matsui, Vladimir Guerrero, Johnny Damon, Magglio Ordonez, or Raul Ibanez) as a stopgap for V-Mart (I really don't want to see Young and Boesch to be in the lineup everyday).
    • kstep15  •  3 months ago
      Get back soon Vic!! Take a look at that LU..

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