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    Pressing Questions: The Pittsburgh Pirates

    What happens at PNC Park stays at PNC Park (Justin Aller-Getty Images)

    The date was July 20, 2011 and the Pittsburgh Pirates were alone in first place in the N.L. Central, having just shut out the Cincinnati Reds in consecutive games. This actually happened. Easily verifiable. The season was well beyond its halfway point and Pittsburgh sat atop a division that would eventually produce two playoff teams, including the Series champ.

    But then the year took a familiar turn. The Pirates dropped three straight games, and 19 of their next 24. On the morning of August 20, 2011, just one month after leading the Central, Pittsburgh found itself in fourth place, 14.5 games back. Buried. Doomed. The team would ultimately finish with 90 losses. The Bucs have not experienced a winning campaign since 1992, when Barry Bonds Version 1.0 was at his peak.

    We can't promise you a Pirates playoff berth in 2012, but there are clearly a few reasons to be interested in this team. Pittsburgh center fielder Andrew McCutchen is just 25 years old and coming off a 23-homer, 23-steal season. Second baseman Neil Walker followed an impressive rookie year with a nice sophomore effort, scoring 76 runs, driving in 83, homering 12 times and stealing nine bags. Joel Hanrahan saved 40 games in 2011 while delivering a 1.83 ERA and allowing just one home run over 68.2 innings. The Bucs' farm system features a handful of notable names, too, including a pair of pitchers who rank among the game's best prospects.

    Ignore this franchise at your own peril, fantasy owner. There's some talent in Pittsburgh, and more on the way.

    So where do we need to take McCutchen if we want him this year?

    In recent mocks, he's the No. 7 outfielder and No. 24 player overall off the board. McCutchen just went 20/20 in his age-24 season, he reaches base at a .365 clip, and he's a clear candidate to make another jump in value. In his best years, this could be a 100-30-100-30 player. But even if he simply repeats his 2011 performance in the year ahead, you'll feel OK about drafting him at his current ADP. McCutchen finished as a top-50 fantasy asset last season, despite a total collapse in September (.171/.316/.355). You're catching him at the right point in the career arc.

    Clint Hurdle (Grant Halverson-US Presswire)And how 'bout the rest of this outfield? Is Alex Presley for real?

    Presley was a gift from the free agent pool last year, a guy who homered the day he was called up, then stole a base in game No. 2. He finished his year with four home runs, nine stolen bases and a .298 average over 215 big league at-bats. Combine those numbers with his Triple-A stats — eight homers, 22 steals, .333/.388/.485 — and you really have an excellent pro season. No complaints. Presley is 26 years old and might very well have reached his peak, but he's a person of interest in deeper formats. (In public-style mixed leagues, you're generally looking for outfielders with higher statistical ceilings. Outfield is where you'll find the elite power/speed combo players, or guys who can dominate in specific categories). Presley could of course still play his way out of a starting job if he's a spring disappointment. Nate McLouth lurks, and Garrett Jones can slide to the outfield as needed.

    Jose Tabata is coming off an injury-plagued campaign (hand, hamstring, quad), so the priority for 2012 is simply to remain in the lineup. He's entering his age-23 season and projects as a reliable source for steals. If all goes well, consider him a threat for 30-plus. There's growth potential here, so let's not assume the book on Tabata is completely written. Here's a hopeful blurb, via MLB.com's Jenifer Langosch:

    "I felt like I got better," Tabata said of his sophomore season. "But I want to keep getting more consistent."

    Consistency is a fair goal, though the Pirates are also hopeful that Tabata will continue to develop more power. Manager Clint Hurdle has said, too, that he intends to push Tabata to be more aggressive on the basepaths next season.

    In our game, more aggression on the basepaths is a beautiful thing. Tabata has 35 steals over 193 career big league games thus far.

    What is the [profane] deal with Pedro Alvarez? He was supposed to be *good*. PROMISES WERE MADE, fantasy expert. Homers were to be hit. What happened?

    Honestly, if Alvarez didn't play such a talent-scarce position, I'd give him the Brett Wallace treatment in this feature. Wouldn't even mention him. The kid hit .191/.272/.289 last season over 262 plate appearances, striking out 80 times. He'll need to make a huge leap at age-25 just to achieve deep league fantasy relevance. Yes, he was the No. 2 overall pick in the 2008 draft, and his first year of pro ball was productive — he hit 27 bombs across two minor league levels in '09. But his conditioning, confidence and work ethic have all been questioned over the past year, and the Bucs added Casey McGehee via trade during the off-season. That was hardly a vote of confidence. Alvarez, at the moment, seems more like a punchline than a prospect. The only reason you need to keep him on the radar at all is that third base is a minefield in NL-only after the top-five or six names.

    We know there aren't any aces in Pittsburgh's rotation, but are there any starters here that we can possibly trust?

    Short answer: Nope, not really.

    The Bucs' rotation again looks like a dangerous buffet for streamers, with few names that deserve draft day consideration. Last year, this staff delivered four starters who posted sub-6.0 K/9 ratios: Charlie Morton (5.77), Paul Maholm (5.38), Jeff Karstens (5.32) and Kevin Correia (4.50). It's never advisable to carry guys like that in leagues with innings limits. Maholm is gone, but the rest remain. Don't mess with them. James McDonald offered a better strikeout-rate (7.47 K/9), but his fantasy ratios didn't really help anyone (4.21 ERA, 1.49 WHIP). If there's a ray of hope for the 27-year-old McDonald, it's the fact that he improved in the second half last year. Check the splits.

    If I were going to make a case for any Pittsburgh starter (which is not my intention), it would be Erik Bedard. He arrives in the non-DH league on a one-year deal, coming off a moderately useful season. The veteran lefty posted a 3.62 ERA and 1.28 WHIP over 129.1 innings for Seattle and Boston in 2011, striking out 125 batters. He's as delicate as spun sugar, though, having visited the DL with shoulder, hip and knee issues in recent seasons. Bedard has thrown less than 300 total innings over the past four years, so banking on a healthy campaign would be ridiculous. Still, if you want to take a flier in the $1 bin, have at it.

    The Cobra (Kelloggs)OK, up at the top you mentioned some notable prospects. Which players should we care about in dynasty leagues?

    The Pirates had the first overall pick in the 2011 draft, and they used it on right-handed starter Gerrit Cole, an massively talented 21-year-old. Upon signing, Cole immediately joined the ranks of baseball's elite pitching prospects, at least on my board (alongside Julio Teheran, Shelby Miller and Jacob Turner, behind Matt Moore). Cole's fastball is just a couple ticks below Strasburg's — though he reportedly hit triple-digits in the Arizona Fall League — his slider is considered a plus pitch, and his change-up has been described by no less an authority than Keith Law as "Johan Santana good." Which, if you didn't know, is pretty good. Cole was actually drafted in the first round by the Yankees back in 2008, but he chose to attend UCLA. He's legit. You're fortunate to have him, Pittsburgh. He won't necessarily need years of seasoning before reaching the big leagues, but let's not expect a fantasy contribution in 2012.

    The Bucs have a second young right-hander in the system who earns high marks, though he may not arrive in the majors as quickly as Cole. Jameson Taillon was the No. 2 overall pick in the 2010 draft, and he just delivered an impressive-enough first season of pro ball. Taillon struck out 97 batters over 92.2 innings at Single-A at age 19, posting a 1.20 WHIP. The organization was clearly cautious with his workload, and they also restricted his use of secondary pitches (curve, slider), so his minor league stats don't tell a full story.

    Switch-hitting outfielder Josh Bell is generally regarded as the top position player in Pittsburgh's farm system, but he's just 19, years away from the big leagues. File away the name for later use. Another young outfielder, Starling Marte, is closer to the big leagues and thus closer to making a fantasy impact. Marte won the batting crown in the Double-A Eastern League last season, hitting .332/.370/.500 with 12 homers, 38 doubles and 24 steals. He only drew 22 walks while striking out 100 times, so that's a concern, but he's hit well at every minor league stop, and he'll likely make another jump in level this season.

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    13 comments

    • TMT  •  4 months ago
      Alvarez confuses the hell out of me, I don't understand how a college hitter from a standout program like Vandy could regress so much so quickly.

      I'm with Fitzy that Tabata, if healthy, will be a good cheap source of steals this season. Had him last season before the injuries and was not disappointed

      Taillon - 97 K's in 92.2 IP, but with only 22 BB. That is a great K/BB ratio, almost elite. And you are right about the secondary pitch restrictions. Pirates wanted him to focus and work on fastball location the past season. Interested to see if they let him "cut it loose" a little bit this season.
      • pensburgh256 4 months ago
        Playing for Nutting, Russel, and a team that hasn't been competitive in 19 years could possibly explain the regression. Well that and the fact that he likes to get in the hole 0-2 on the majority of his ABs and seems to have lost his strike zone.
      • Ross 4 months ago
        reasoning for pedro?? he was rushed through the system, plain and simple. does not matter how polished of a hitter a guy is coming out of college, they need to see alot of professional pitching and get their AB's before the bigs. you need to be able to adjust you're mentality at the plate and be able to walk into the box with an approach and then be able to adjust you're mindset pitch-by-pitch. all that comes with see more and more pitches and setting that approach in stone. and thats in fact what alvarez isnt doing, he has no approach whatsoever. people think he just cant hit, but his struggles are ALL MENTAL
      • karreemofwheat 4 months ago
        ross i think his struggles are 90% mental and the other 1/2 is physical.
    • Max  •  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  •  4 months ago
      james mcdonald is reliable
    • Rob M  •  4 months ago
      "We can't promise you a Pirates playoff berth in 2012, but there are clearly a few reasons to be interested in this team. Pittsburgh center fielder Andrew McCutchen is just 25 years old and coming off a 23-homer, 23-steal season. Second baseman Neil Walker followed an impressive rookie year with a nice sophomore effort, scoring 76 runs, driving in 83, homering 12 times and stealing nine bags. Joel Hanrahan saved 40 games in 2011 while delivering a 1.83 ERA and allowing just one home run over 68.2 innings. The Bucs' farm system features a handful of notable names, too, including a pair of pitchers who rank among the game's best prospects."

      Roughly translates to Pittsburgh will look to deal McCutchen, Walker, Hanrahan & prospects for a pair of has-beens, some never-weres and even more prospects.
    • ShmoeDizzle  •  Los Angeles, California  •  4 months ago
      Is that Jason Kendall kissing Ryan Doumit? Gross.
    • Rich Pino  •  New York, New York  •  4 months ago
      McCutchen is very good but I will expect to see his value rise as the drafting season progresses. Early in drafts people may be sleeping on McCutchen because he's on a bad team but when people start doing more research he will spike in value. How high up he moves will determine if he's worth drafting.

      I don't take Alex Presley seriously yet because of the competition mentioned by Behrens. You know Mclouth and Jones will get some ABs and Spring Training could determine who plays more. If Presley has a great Spring Training than he may be worth a look late in drafts. If Tabata just can stay healthy he will be huge in fantasy. He has showed that he can get on base, and the average can definitely come. He will be able to get 30+ SB easily if he's on the field, and maybe double digit HR is a possibility. He has potential for a 30+ SB, 85+ R, 10 HR season. The key to his potential will be AVG, but picking him late will make it worth the risk.

      McDonald won't be draftable this year unless he stars in Spring Training, and Bedard is a good pick with the last pick or a $1 price. Yes, he might get injured, but when he plays he will produce, and if your league has DL spots his production will be worth the extremely low price he has.
    • Gary S  •  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  •  4 months ago
      Lets see what happens. No one seen coming what happen in the first half of the year last year. Matter a fact as happy as I was that they were doing well, I say this pitching is not going to hold up. And I was right. Does Bedard give up that many more wins than Maholm? I don't think so. But you never know. I don't excpect a great season this year, but anything can happen. If the Pirates are going to make a move to win the Central this is the year. Fielder and Puljos are gone. Braun is out of the first what 60 games. This is the year to make your move if there is ever going to be one.
      • karreemofwheat 4 months ago
        braun is out 50 games. when is our first game with the brewers you ask? the 51st game unfortunately, snakebit again.
      • Gary S 4 months ago
        thanks for the infor Karrenmofwheat. thought it was an even number just couldn't remember which.
    • Fitzy  •  4 months ago
      For posting that top picture, you are sentenced to life in prison alongside your criminal brother, Anders Behring Breivik (you're lucky there was an umbrella to shield their ugly Pittsburgh faces, or else it would have been death by Biebering).

      Big Tabata backer, and I kinda like Presley, too -- as lower-end OF in deeper leagues.

      Going to be interesting to see who decides to take a plunge on Alvarez in auction leagues (and for how much). I think the Pirates are pretty committed to him -- both from a draft and a positional standpoint -- and he can't *possibly* be any worse than last year...or can he?

      I actually kinda dig this offense -- reminds me of a vintage '80s Cardinals club with all that team speed, and seeing-eye singles utilizing the hit-and-run. But yeah -- that rotation is BRUTAL. I see they're betting on Erik Bedard as their ace -- hopefully they can make the most out of his four 2012 starts!
      • Lee Majors 4 months ago
        I thought it was a sweet picture. Cuter than kittens in li'l Pirates hats.
      • Fitzy 4 months ago
        Ohhh, I totally would'a gone with 'dem kitties.

        Animals are ALWAYS cuter than people -- especially grown-up (ugly) people acting like g0ddamn babies!
      • EpicWin 4 months ago
        fitzy. dont tell me i know u? and if i do. u should know who this is already.
    • Patrick W  •  4 months ago
      I still have nightmares about the Braves game... :(
    • Sean  •  Los Angeles, California  •  4 months ago
      Don't forget about the young SS/3B Chase D'aurnaud, I think with a good spring and more pro at bats he could be a nice pick for a late round SS if you need one
    • LP  •  Columbus, Ohio  •  4 months ago
      The Pirates ruin all of there pitching prospects. Please go look at the last 15 years and all of the "talented" young arms they ruined.Aldersen who we traded Freddy Sanchez for is a prime example. But us pirates fan just keep letting the ownership and gm get away with it. As long as they make money they dont care about putting a quality team on the field. Plain and simple. Either the Pirates get New ownership, or it will be the same Old sht!
      • ArtVandelay 4 months ago
        same thing we've heard for the last 20 years...if you're such a fan have some positivity
      • The NO 4 months ago
        Thanks for Doug Drabek when I first started winning fantasy championships! Even more thanks for Tim Wakefield in real life baseball! Go BoSox!
      • LP 4 months ago
        Ya NO they are great when they go someplace else. How about Jose Bautista? Guy couldnt even hit a ground rule double with the pirates. He became a 2-time HR champ in Toronto #$%$ And ArtVan i am guessing you are about 17 years old, and dont even know what a pro club should look like if you follow the pirates. They were one of the best teams in baseball in the 70's and early 90's. Its not the town its the owners. Provide some facts next time before you spout off and make yourself look dumb.
    • Ross  •  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  •  4 months ago
      beginning of last season, every writer and publication picked the pirates starting rotation to be so awful and that the buccos would easily get to 100 losses. absolutely NOBODY expected or predicted the surprising season the entire team had this past season. the starting rotation was like tops in team ERA in the national league at the All Star Break over the "greatest rotation ever" with the Phillies. there was no expectations for them last season and the competing for the division title nobody would have thought would happen. but guess what, THEY EXCEEDED EVERYONES EXPECTATIONS!! they were the talk of sportscenter and all over the sports world...even regis philbin was talking about them daily!! and now Jeff Passan's article is talking down on them because now the team has slight expectations and a standard in the bigs. they upgraded at all the positions they lost a guy via free agency. and they will never compete for big name free agents, no matter how much everyone whines about "signing good players to get good and win", they will never be in the running for them as long as they are a small market and not winning. once they establish credibility as a destination for big name free agents want to go to for "winners with money" then they can spend money on them. but right now, it cant happen at all. anyway, reds will win the central this year
    • Justin B  •  Salt Lake City, Utah  •  4 months ago
      Top rated drafted pitching prospects over the years:
      Brad Lincoln
      John Van Beschoten
      Bobby Bradley
      Bryan Bullington
      Sean Burnett
      Tom Gorzelanny
      Zach Duke
      Ian Snell

      All where either high draft choices or rated as premeir prospects...all ruined in the Pittsburgh system so I don't hold much hope for Taillon and Cole
    • Kid  •  4 months ago
      Here's my issue with McCutchen. His wOBAs the past three years have been .368, .363 and .360 in 2011. To me, that is not a superstar player - it's simply a pretty good player. Could he have a breakout in 2012? I guess, but nothing in the numbers really points to one. BB% was at a career high last year, but so was the K%. He hit for more power, but had the lowest contact rate of his first three years, too. These issues are with his peripherals, though. Not with his counting numbers, which were very good. So even if he does a carbon copy of 2011 both peripherally and fantasy numbers-wise, he's still clearly a top-10 OF. But personally I wouldn't buy him with an assumed forthcoming improvement already priced in.
      • Ray 4 months ago
        I thought you only posted on fantasy football boards?

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